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Post by f4rr3ll on Nov 6, 2021 20:13:37 GMT -5
So I've had this question for a while now and your latest Nick-O-Rama made me decide to go ahead and ask this. You've gone on rants on Cartoon Network, Nick and even Netflix which was a major surprise to me. So I gotta ask, are there any networks you don't have a gripe with in terms of animation? Also, out of Nick, CN and Netflix, which do you have the biggest disdain for?
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Post by hydraspectre1138 on Nov 7, 2021 9:35:29 GMT -5
Not Mr. Enter, but personally, all of them have problems. Netflix would have the most problems out of all of them. They also heavily push terrible films and shows like The Kissing Booth, Tall Girl, Bird Box and Big Mouth yet they bury the actual good stuff they have like most of their actual good stuff, which is mostly anime and K-dramas, which they think is only appreciated by niche audiences even if there are tons of otaku and weeaboos worldwide who love anime and K-dramas.
They tried to bury Squid Game and failed since it became the most popular Netflix show of all time out of the blue. And yet Netflix didn't push it nearly as much as The Kissing Booth. But they also probably just relied on word-of-mouth to spread the word on the show. I loved Squid Game. We still have Netflix because we are a family of weeaboos who love anime and K-dramas.
HBO also has some of Netflix's problems with promoting degeneracy such as with Little Ellen and that Transhood documentary, though Transhood actually shows how bad parents forcing children to be trans is, whether intentionally or not. I don't have HBO Max here in Southeast Asia, which is why I had to rely on torrents to watch HBO Max originals like Zack Snyder's Justice League, Earwig and the Witch (which would later come out on Netflix outside of the US this month), and Godzilla vs. Kong. I have not torrented Dune yet since cinemas are opening very soon and I really want to watch it in IMAX but I will definitely be torrenting the Dune: The Sisterhood spinoff series.
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Post by ockerjj on Nov 7, 2021 10:50:53 GMT -5
Cartoon Network seems to be the least troublesome network... unless you're pushing to create something with strong continuity. That's a risk on any channel, but I think CN has had the most cases of not rerunning shows if they suspect this will be a problem, or just rejecting them. This includes Steven Universe, Infinity Train, OK KO, and probably Galactic Kids Next Door. Their only other significant sleight to my knowledge was trying to dump their entire old guard in 2009/2010. You know the ones: Tartakovsky, McCracken, Faust, Atoms, etc. (Note: Cartoon Network != Adult Swim. That's a different ball of wax.)
As for Disney Channel, I believe the worry is them not being accepting of heavier subjects, or possibly rejecting shows that might differ in ideology from their own.
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Post by darkentity on Nov 8, 2021 17:29:03 GMT -5
Not Mr. Enter, but personally, all of them have problems. Netflix would have the most problems out of all of them. They also heavily push terrible films and shows like The Kissing Booth, Tall Girl, Bird Box and Big Mouth yet they bury the actual good stuff they have like most of their actual good stuff, which is mostly anime and K-dramas, which they think is only appreciated by niche audiences even if there are tons of otaku and weeaboos worldwide who love anime and K-dramas. They tried to bury Squid Game and failed since it became the most popular Netflix show of all time out of the blue. And yet Netflix didn't push it nearly as much as The Kissing Booth. But they also probably just relied on word-of-mouth to spread the word on the show. I loved Squid Game. We still have Netflix because we are a family of weeaboos who love anime and K-dramas. HBO also has some of Netflix's problems with promoting degeneracy such as with Little Ellen and that Transhood documentary, though Transhood actually shows how bad parents forcing children to be trans is, whether intentionally or not. I don't have HBO Max here in Southeast Asia, which is why I had to rely on torrents to watch HBO Max originals like Zack Snyder's Justice League, Earwig and the Witch (which would later come out on Netflix outside of the US this month), and Godzilla vs. Kong. I have not torrented Dune yet since cinemas are opening very soon and I really want to watch it in IMAX but I will definitely be torrenting the Dune: The Sisterhood spinoff series. I've said this before, but Netflix seems to love to put the "Netflix Original" label on a lot of garbage. Duck Duck Goose, Pets United, and a lot of the recent schlock from that bunch of talentless weirdos that call themselves an animation studio, Vanguard, notable for Fearless and Gnome Alone. I would not be shocked if they actually did try to bury their good stuff, or even just get less of it.
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Post by hydraspectre1138 on Feb 4, 2022 23:52:44 GMT -5
Not Mr. Enter, but personally, all of them have problems. Netflix would have the most problems out of all of them. They also heavily push terrible films and shows like The Kissing Booth, Tall Girl, Bird Box and Big Mouth yet they bury the actual good stuff they have like most of their actual good stuff, which is mostly anime and K-dramas, which they think is only appreciated by niche audiences even if there are tons of otaku and weeaboos worldwide who love anime and K-dramas. They tried to bury Squid Game and failed since it became the most popular Netflix show of all time out of the blue. And yet Netflix didn't push it nearly as much as The Kissing Booth. But they also probably just relied on word-of-mouth to spread the word on the show. I loved Squid Game. We still have Netflix because we are a family of weeaboos who love anime and K-dramas. HBO also has some of Netflix's problems with promoting degeneracy such as with Little Ellen and that Transhood documentary, though Transhood actually shows how bad parents forcing children to be trans is, whether intentionally or not. I don't have HBO Max here in Southeast Asia, which is why I had to rely on torrents to watch HBO Max originals like Zack Snyder's Justice League, Earwig and the Witch (which would later come out on Netflix outside of the US this month), and Godzilla vs. Kong. I have not torrented Dune yet since cinemas are opening very soon and I really want to watch it in IMAX but I will definitely be torrenting the Dune: The Sisterhood spinoff series. I've said this before, but Netflix seems to love to put the "Netflix Original" label on a lot of garbage. Duck Duck Goose, Pets United, and a lot of the recent schlock from that bunch of talentless weirdos that call themselves an animation studio, Vanguard, notable for Fearless and Gnome Alone. I would not be shocked if they actually did try to bury their good stuff, or even just get less of it. But it's worse when they love making sequels to their terrible movies and new seasons for their terrible shows like Emily in Paris, yet they cancel The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance and Altered Carbon. I am just glad they didn't greenlight Cuties 2: Cosmodore Strikes Back or Cowboy Bebop: A Netflix Adaptation - Season 2. We won't get HBO Go or Amazon Prime Video because there aren't enough good Korean dramas there and we only have Netflix because my family is addicted to Korean dramas, while I can watch a ton of good anime on Netflix since I am not that much into Korean dramas. It's telling that most of the good stuff on Netflix are all Asian content, which is mostly buried by Netflix over their terrible films and shows. There's no Disney+ yet over where I live but we will get that since they are actually making some original Korean dramas unlike HBO and Amazon.
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Post by becousinpoetater on Feb 9, 2022 13:13:22 GMT -5
So Out of ALL the networks; Which one is the LEAST bad?
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Post by hydraspectre1138 on Feb 15, 2022 3:24:15 GMT -5
I've said this before, but Netflix seems to love to put the "Netflix Original" label on a lot of garbage. Duck Duck Goose, Pets United, and a lot of the recent schlock from that bunch of talentless weirdos that call themselves an animation studio, Vanguard, notable for Fearless and Gnome Alone. I would not be shocked if they actually did try to bury their good stuff, or even just get less of it. But it's worse when they love making sequels to their terrible movies and new seasons for their terrible shows like Emily in Paris, yet they cancel The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance and Altered Carbon. I am just glad they didn't greenlight Cuties 2: Cosmodore Strikes Back or Cowboy Bebop: A Netflix Adaptation - Season 2. We won't get HBO Go or Amazon Prime Video because there aren't enough good Korean dramas there and we only have Netflix because my family is addicted to Korean dramas, while I can watch a ton of good anime on Netflix since I am not that much into Korean dramas. It's telling that most of the good stuff on Netflix are all Asian content, which is mostly buried by Netflix over their terrible films and shows. There's no Disney+ yet over where I live but we will get that since they are actually making some original Korean dramas unlike HBO and Amazon. Netflix just pushed Tall Girl 2 out to hell and back. And considering how terrible the first one, I am still baffled as to why they would make a sequel beyond easy money. The movie was ridiculously cheap and had no chance of bombing, and people came in droves just to hate watch it and make fun of it. Netflix thinks they would strike gold again and they did. Thankfully, they extremely hyped up this really good Korean drama called All of Us Are Dead, and it seems they are going to do it again for The Cuphead Show, which got two more seasons even before the first season was released. I think The Cuphead Show got multiple seasons because it was bound to be a success. It has a much lower budget than something like Arcane or Castlevania, it is based on a very popular video game, and it's much more family-friendly than either Arcane or Castlevania. They cancelled the Cowboy Bebop remake just a few days after release even though everyone hated it and it had a massive potential for hate watching because it was just too expensive. For it to even be a success, they needed it to be a Squid Game-tier success, and they aren't going to make it that successful even through an ironic hate watch viewership. And even then, films like The Kissing Booth and Tall Girl and shows like Emily in Paris are not even good to hate watch. They are extremely boring and they talk down to their teenage/child audiences. If I want to hate watch something, I want it to be especially terrible and cheap in a funny way. I don't want a boring and obnoxious Netflix romcom, I want something that looks like an extremely elaborate and intricately designed shitpost/dank meme except it was made with complete sincerity. There is this show here in the Philippines called Daig Kayo ng Lola Ko (My Grandmother is Cooler Than You) which has all that and more and I love it. It was apparently made completely sincere and unironic but it looks like the best and largest shitpost ever known to man. If it was a shitpost, it's an even bigger shitpost than Cruelty Squad, an arthouse game that was designed to look like a deep fried shitpost at first glance. I really wish more people would discover Daig Kayo ng Lola Ko but there are no English subtitles for it, even if the YouTube descriptions are in English (well, bootleg JoJo-tier Engrish). What's even better is that this airs on national TV here in the Philippines, and it's not some public access schlock or a strange dark web show. It airs on what is basically the local equivalent of Fox, ABC, NBC, or The CW while looking like the dankest and most elaborate meme known to man. It's extremely terrible for all the right reasons and I love it.
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Post by makotoshinkaifan on Apr 22, 2022 11:20:41 GMT -5
Things like Kissing Booth and Bird Box are far from my biggest problem with netflix. Unless they've actually admitted that "cuties" was child sex exploitation and they disown that movie, I am never going to buy a netflix subscription. I'll watch stuff like Squid Game and Voltron LD by getting them on DVD or something if I really want to watch them. I am not going to support that service until they attempt to make amends.
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Post by hydraspectre1138 on Aug 11, 2022 8:46:54 GMT -5
Not Mr. Enter, but personally, all of them have problems. Netflix would have the most problems out of all of them. They also heavily push terrible films and shows like The Kissing Booth, Tall Girl, Bird Box and Big Mouth yet they bury the actual good stuff they have like most of their actual good stuff, which is mostly anime and K-dramas, which they think is only appreciated by niche audiences even if there are tons of otaku and weeaboos worldwide who love anime and K-dramas. They tried to bury Squid Game and failed since it became the most popular Netflix show of all time out of the blue. And yet Netflix didn't push it nearly as much as The Kissing Booth. But they also probably just relied on word-of-mouth to spread the word on the show. I loved Squid Game. We still have Netflix because we are a family of weeaboos who love anime and K-dramas. HBO also has some of Netflix's problems with promoting degeneracy such as with Little Ellen and that Transhood documentary, though Transhood actually shows how bad parents forcing children to be trans is, whether intentionally or not. I don't have HBO Max here in Southeast Asia, which is why I had to rely on torrents to watch HBO Max originals like Zack Snyder's Justice League, Earwig and the Witch (which would later come out on Netflix outside of the US this month), and Godzilla vs. Kong. I have not torrented Dune yet since cinemas are opening very soon and I really want to watch it in IMAX but I will definitely be torrenting the Dune: The Sisterhood spinoff series. I've said this before, but Netflix seems to love to put the "Netflix Original" label on a lot of garbage. Duck Duck Goose, Pets United, and a lot of the recent schlock from that bunch of talentless weirdos that call themselves an animation studio, Vanguard, notable for Fearless and Gnome Alone. I would not be shocked if they actually did try to bury their good stuff, or even just get less of it. The worst time they labelled something a Netflix Original, is when they got Neon Genesis Evangelion, a show that is older than Netflix, and labelled it a Netflix Original. They labelled it a Netflix Original even though it was older than Netflix and had a VHS and DVD release in America before Netflix existed. Netflix just picked up the streaming rights to the HD remastered version and made new retranslations with Studio Khara. Still, Evangelion is one of Netflix's better shows, it might be their best show. I would love to get the GKIDS Blu-ray of Evangelion, just so I don't have to use Netflix anymore to watch the show in HD, and I only have the modern khara/Netflix/VSI translations on Netflix and the standard Blu-ray. I love watching my old ADV/Manga DVDs on my childhood CRT, the way God intended, but it's too impractical because my sisters want me to move to a cramped condo with no space for such a massive CRT. The Collector's Edition GKIDS Blu-ray, at least, would allow me to watch the classic translations in HD. Still, the pure aesthetics of Evangelion on a CRT are pure kino.
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Post by emilyj15 on Aug 11, 2022 22:00:41 GMT -5
I've said this before, but Netflix seems to love to put the "Netflix Original" label on a lot of garbage. Duck Duck Goose, Pets United, and a lot of the recent schlock from that bunch of talentless weirdos that call themselves an animation studio, Vanguard, notable for Fearless and Gnome Alone. I would not be shocked if they actually did try to bury their good stuff, or even just get less of it. The worst time they labelled something a Netflix Original, is when they got Neon Genesis Evangelion, a show that is older than Netflix, and labelled it a Netflix Original. They labelled it a Netflix Original even though it was older than Netflix and had a VHS and DVD release in America before Netflix existed. Netflix just picked up the streaming rights to the HD remastered version and made new retranslations with Studio Khara. Still, Evangelion is one of Netflix's better shows, it might be their best show. I would love to get the GKIDS Blu-ray of Evangelion, just so I don't have to use Netflix anymore to watch the show in HD, and I only have the modern khara/Netflix/VSI translations on Netflix and the standard Blu-ray. I love watching my old ADV/Manga DVDs on my childhood CRT, the way God intended, but it's too impractical because my sisters want me to move to a cramped condo with no space for such a massive CRT. The Collector's Edition GKIDS Blu-ray, at least, would allow me to watch the classic translations in HD. Still, the pure aesthetics of Evangelion on a CRT are pure kino. I'm afraid that I disagree about Evangelion because I remember not liking it very much, mostly because Shinji didn't do anything to deserve being pushed around by almost everyone else. Personally, I believe that Aggretsuko might be Netflix's best show since that show approaches its subjects delicately while pulling no punches.
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